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	<title>Comments on: Lane Splitting In Virginia???</title>
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		<title>By: STROLR</title>
		<link>http://www.vabiker.net/2008/06/lane-splitting-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-2615</link>
		<dc:creator>STROLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started riding motorcycles in CA, over 40 years ago. Learned the &#039;knack&#039; of lane-splitting, then had to leave state for employment reasons.

For over 12 years as a MC package courier, I did the &#039;red-light split&#039; (wait til all others stop, then scoot up to front using dotted line) almost anywhere in DC Metro area. When light changed, my acceleration rate got me ahead of pack and out of trouble from PO&#039;d cagers.

While I&#039;d LIKE to see it in VA, I don&#039;t think it&#039;ll fly, because too many of &#039;them&#039; can/will write to legislators, versus &#039;us&#039;  too few (and complacent). IF it does become OK in VA, we&#039;ll have to learn to look out  for that door opening to dump an ashtray, or flat Coke.  (But we&#039;re already watching for that jerk anyway, aren&#039;t we??)

After riding over 25 years, I ALWAYS assume I&#039;m invisible when around cagers, and its my job to stay out of their way. Not much different if I get (legal) chance to split the lane. I&#039;ve been known to do it on rare occasion even now- (like to get away from that A..hole that&#039;s trying to get it on with my taillight).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started riding motorcycles in CA, over 40 years ago. Learned the &#8216;knack&#8217; of lane-splitting, then had to leave state for employment reasons.</p>
<p>For over 12 years as a MC package courier, I did the &#8216;red-light split&#8217; (wait til all others stop, then scoot up to front using dotted line) almost anywhere in DC Metro area. When light changed, my acceleration rate got me ahead of pack and out of trouble from PO&#8217;d cagers.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;d LIKE to see it in VA, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll fly, because too many of &#8216;them&#8217; can/will write to legislators, versus &#8216;us&#8217;  too few (and complacent). IF it does become OK in VA, we&#8217;ll have to learn to look out  for that door opening to dump an ashtray, or flat Coke.  (But we&#8217;re already watching for that jerk anyway, aren&#8217;t we??)</p>
<p>After riding over 25 years, I ALWAYS assume I&#8217;m invisible when around cagers, and its my job to stay out of their way. Not much different if I get (legal) chance to split the lane. I&#8217;ve been known to do it on rare occasion even now- (like to get away from that A..hole that&#8217;s trying to get it on with my taillight).</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 01:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey mike , yes va has some things not to like , but one of the reasons we havent been hit so hard with the suck ass obamaconomy is that we are a right to work
state, and if your employer doesnt like the way you look at him , yes  he can fire you. better than a union state with long welfare lines</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey mike , yes va has some things not to like , but one of the reasons we havent been hit so hard with the suck ass obamaconomy is that we are a right to work<br />
state, and if your employer doesnt like the way you look at him , yes  he can fire you. better than a union state with long welfare lines</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition, I have just recently wrote our congressman in the state of Virginia.  Please.   All do the same and something may become of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition, I have just recently wrote our congressman in the state of Virginia.  Please.   All do the same and something may become of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.vabiker.net/2008/06/lane-splitting-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-2604</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree. Legalize it, here is an article from San Fran in Cali.  I think all rider&#039;s, and potentially people that drive may understand the points we are all trying to make.

check out this linkl.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/10/30/MN87097.DTL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. Legalize it, here is an article from San Fran in Cali.  I think all rider&#8217;s, and potentially people that drive may understand the points we are all trying to make.</p>
<p>check out this linkl.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/10/30/MN87097.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/10/30/MN87097.DTL</a></p>
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		<title>By: PaulB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just moved from CA where lane-splitting is legal only because it isn&#039;t illegal. Cops won&#039;t give you a ticket as long as you stay below 15 mph more than traffic flow. When some lamebrain legislator tried to make it illegal, even the CHP came to our rescue. They said that it not only prevents over-heating but it was safer to be side-swiped than to be a sandwich between two cars.

I&#039;ve done it for 30 years in CA and never had a problem and neither have my friends. The trick is to watch ahead as car telegraph their intentions in advance and to watch openings carefully because that is where a car most likely will move into.

PS: Before moving to CA, I lived on Long Island where I did it illegally and only got one ticket in many years of doing so. I have a feeling this will be the worst thing about moving to VA. What would our founding fathers say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just moved from CA where lane-splitting is legal only because it isn&#8217;t illegal. Cops won&#8217;t give you a ticket as long as you stay below 15 mph more than traffic flow. When some lamebrain legislator tried to make it illegal, even the CHP came to our rescue. They said that it not only prevents over-heating but it was safer to be side-swiped than to be a sandwich between two cars.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done it for 30 years in CA and never had a problem and neither have my friends. The trick is to watch ahead as car telegraph their intentions in advance and to watch openings carefully because that is where a car most likely will move into.</p>
<p>PS: Before moving to CA, I lived on Long Island where I did it illegally and only got one ticket in many years of doing so. I have a feeling this will be the worst thing about moving to VA. What would our founding fathers say?</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved here to Va. in 2001, and have seen some of the most stupid sh..er stuff that I have ever witnessed! First of all a helmet law that does not include brain bucketts! Do away with the helmit law all together! DO IT NOW!!!!Let the posers that support the D O T aproved helmit wear them, and let the rest of us be FREE!!!! Am I mistaken or isent that what this country is about?! FREEDOM! WELCOME TO THE USA LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE.  What a bunch of BS thats right I said it BS!!!!!!!!!! Now sit down and shut up and we( the government ,or should I say the people in power, the Insurence companeys) will tell you whats good for you! Don&#039;t smoke, Dont drink, stay off the grass, conform or face the consequences. The powers that be muse be stoped! The same people that make laws &quot;for your own good&quot; are the same people tha made this a right to work state, what a joke that is ... you can be fires for anyreason at all...laws to protect bussiness owners and not the workers tha do the work to make the companey money for the owner to make his life and familey better but screw you at the same time.WE HAVE TO TAKE THE POWER BACK!!! Now don&#039;t get me wrong you yuppie scum just sit there an do nothing this is for the real AMERICAN BIKERS OUT THERE . FIGHT ON AND RIDE HARD!!!!!!! OH yeah if you go to a bike event and don&#039;t whant your kids subjected to breasts LEAVE THEM HOME!!!!!!!!!!!BETTER YET STAY HOME YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved here to Va. in 2001, and have seen some of the most stupid sh..er stuff that I have ever witnessed! First of all a helmet law that does not include brain bucketts! Do away with the helmit law all together! DO IT NOW!!!!Let the posers that support the D O T aproved helmit wear them, and let the rest of us be FREE!!!! Am I mistaken or isent that what this country is about?! FREEDOM! WELCOME TO THE USA LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE.  What a bunch of BS thats right I said it BS!!!!!!!!!! Now sit down and shut up and we( the government ,or should I say the people in power, the Insurence companeys) will tell you whats good for you! Don&#8217;t smoke, Dont drink, stay off the grass, conform or face the consequences. The powers that be muse be stoped! The same people that make laws &#8220;for your own good&#8221; are the same people tha made this a right to work state, what a joke that is &#8230; you can be fires for anyreason at all&#8230;laws to protect bussiness owners and not the workers tha do the work to make the companey money for the owner to make his life and familey better but screw you at the same time.WE HAVE TO TAKE THE POWER BACK!!! Now don&#8217;t get me wrong you yuppie scum just sit there an do nothing this is for the real AMERICAN BIKERS OUT THERE . FIGHT ON AND RIDE HARD!!!!!!! OH yeah if you go to a bike event and don&#8217;t whant your kids subjected to breasts LEAVE THEM HOME!!!!!!!!!!!BETTER YET STAY HOME YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: gixxer</title>
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		<dc:creator>gixxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>§ 46.2-857. Driving two abreast in a single lane. 

A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to be abreast of another vehicle in a lane designed for one vehicle, or drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to travel abreast of any other vehicle traveling in a lane designed for one vehicle. However, this section shall not apply to any validly authorized parade, motorcade, or motorcycle escort, nor shall it apply to a motor vehicle traveling in the same lane of traffic as a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, electric power-assisted bicycle, or moped. 

it sucks f##ck the cops. they wont ever get you.

(Code 1950, §§ 46-209, 46-209.1; 1950, p. 880; 1952, c. 671; 1954, cc. 225, 401, 458; 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-190; 1960, c. 510; 1964, c. 266; 1966, c. 694; 1968, c. 575; 1970, c. 521; 1974, cc. 222, 455; 1975, c. 633; 1978, c. 27; 1979, c. 86; 1981, cc. 333, 585; 1985, c. 148; 1989, c. 727; 2001, c. 834; 2002, c. 254.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>§ 46.2-857. Driving two abreast in a single lane. </p>
<p>A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to be abreast of another vehicle in a lane designed for one vehicle, or drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to travel abreast of any other vehicle traveling in a lane designed for one vehicle. However, this section shall not apply to any validly authorized parade, motorcade, or motorcycle escort, nor shall it apply to a motor vehicle traveling in the same lane of traffic as a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, electric power-assisted bicycle, or moped. </p>
<p>it sucks f##ck the cops. they wont ever get you.</p>
<p>(Code 1950, §§ 46-209, 46-209.1; 1950, p. 880; 1952, c. 671; 1954, cc. 225, 401, 458; 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-190; 1960, c. 510; 1964, c. 266; 1966, c. 694; 1968, c. 575; 1970, c. 521; 1974, cc. 222, 455; 1975, c. 633; 1978, c. 27; 1979, c. 86; 1981, cc. 333, 585; 1985, c. 148; 1989, c. 727; 2001, c. 834; 2002, c. 254.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it should absolutely be allowed!  with the caviate that it is only allowed when ALL cars being passed are at a complete stop!   This is for mainly at lights, but it helps a LOT with even that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it should absolutely be allowed!  with the caviate that it is only allowed when ALL cars being passed are at a complete stop!   This is for mainly at lights, but it helps a LOT with even that.</p>
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